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Two of the strongest plays you can make with Spirits is a flash lord or a flash Selfless. Vial increases your ability to do so. Bant has CoCo, and UW has Vial. The power spike that the deck experiences in games with vial turn 1 compared to games without vial turn 1 is less dramatic than other the forementioned vial decks It is worth noting that the majority of lists of UW spirits in the past have chosen to run Aether vial, however no real lists have come out testing supreme phantom yet, so it's hard. de FoN is good in UW Spirits but I don't like it in Bant. Taxes is pretty cheap (or at least used to be before SFM) and utilizes Vials. 1 de set. Anyone who's been in this situation and built a vial-less deck? What is stopping me from UW Spirits modern is the price of Vials. turn 1 compared to games without vial turn 1 is less dramatic than other the forementioned vial decks. . What would UW spirits cut for a playset of these? Vial gives the deck the flexibility it needs to leave mana up to flash, while still applying pressure. 8 level 1. Vial makes Phantasmal Image completely busted (especially when you Vial it in to clone the Drogskol they are targeting). You can also use Vial to bring in Spirits to buff Wanderer for those matches where you are REALLY the beatdown. I somewhat like the bant version, but im afraid the cost is a lot and the manabase is highly demanding compared to the UW version. On the other hand you can really dig deep with CoCo, which Vial can't. should I go Bant, Esper with Vial or just UW with [[Aether Vial]]? I'm building a spirits deck, but I'm a bit conflicted.. share. What is stopping me from UW Spirits modern is the price of Vials. save. Need your help. hide. report. 10 comments. Anyone who's been in this situation and built a vial-less deck? each vial means slightly worse. So each vial you add has diminishing returns. The cost is about the same (each vial you add means one less creature you have. but you could also just play UW spirits with 4 vials. 10 de dez. de A lot of Modern decks I'm interested in run the play set of vial.

  • Is losing the 8% of an opening Vial worth having one less as a bad top deck moment as when both 3 vials became the norm and Bant clearly eclipsed UW. .
    • I do feel like vial would make the deck 10x better. Here's my UW spirit deck. One thing that makes Merfolk so great is its inclusion of Silvergill Adept, allowing it to draw. 'd a month ago, but recently went last two FNM's unfortunately. I disagree with getting rid of Visions, or maybe just replacing visions with another card draw. The games with Vial feel like cheating. I know that's specifically what you asked not to hear, but you will have a weaker tempo plan and a weaker disruption package and a decreased ability to go wide without it. I play straight UW spirits because coco annoys me. It is objectively better to run vial in your deck than not. I'm not saying that UW spirits is going to . The other direction I'd like to take is more of a Faerie-ish deck with less creatures, no Vials, and more spells and maybe try out Ancestral Visions. For budget go vial-less UW without fetches. 1 de jul. de 2- Is any of the spirits deck possibly budgetable and progressively extensible? UW is more stable (fewer colors + Aether Vial), and has many more slots  . I know spirits is the new hot thing but I have wanted to build them for a while. Playing with the 4 copies makes it very easy to remember why it was banned in Standard. Copter is such an absolute house, plus the ability to loot is extremely powerful late game when you need to cycle through your one-drops or dead cards. Smuggler's Copter is busted in a turnish format. Copter is such an absolute house, plus the ability to loot is extremely powerful late game when you need to cycle through your one-drops or dead cards. Smuggler's Copter is busted in a turnish format. Playing with the 4 copies makes it very easy to remember why it was banned in Standard. I have vials now so I’m back to Spirits for spooky tribal . I typically play tribal decks, I’ve played vial-less spirits once at my LGS and I’ve played Merfolk, elementals, and most recently goblins. There's a reason why UW decks are running [[Spreading Seas]] in the main, and having a solid 1-drop that plays the same role, and is a fish, makes life great. That costs one less. For the Hierarch deck, you can have four spirits in play by having a hand of Wanderer + 2 drop + Company + Hierarch + Land + Land + Land. de Aether Vial is not skippable at all so you have to bite the bullet in there. Here you go. Something that at very least is playable and as cheap. 13 de mar. . Even elementals are getting pushed out in favor of their evolution, yorion blink, which relies less on synergy. I somewhat like the bant version, but im afraid the cost is a lot and the manabase is highly demanding compared to the UW version. On the other hand you can really dig deep with CoCo, which Vial can't. should I go Bant, Esper with Vial or just UW with [[Aether Vial]]? I'm building a spirits deck, but I'm a bit conflicted.. Deck 4 Dreamtail Heron (IKO) 47 9 Island (AFR) 4 Prosperous Innkeeper (AFR) 9 Forest (AFR) 1 Hall of Storm Giants (AFR) 4 Thornwood Falls (M21) 4 Opt (STA) 19 1 Lair of the Hydra (AFR) 4 Migratory Greathorn (IKO) 4 Deliberate (ZNR) 56 4 Scute Swarm (ZNR) 4 Saw It Coming (KHM) Here's the list than the explanation. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Press J to jump to the feed. de Why no aether vial: between quellers flash and lingering souls not being a creature vial starts to feel less useful though still very strong. 27 de jul. A VERY budget UW spirits was my first modern deck. . Nov 23, Honestly modern Bant look so much less reliant on CoCo though it's not even funny. Humans has problems rebuilding a board so [[Urza's Saga]] is the perfect way to make [[Supreme Verdict]] less of a blowout. With Saga able to, at worst, go get an [[Aether Vial]] that at the very least pumps up a Karnstruct, it's an easy 6 cards to fit in the 80; with [[Pithing Needle]] and [[Shadowspear]] as the other two tutor targets. There are only two "expensive" types of cards that are core to a typical UW Spirits list: Aether Vials, and UW dual lands. It's more explosive and spirits struggles to keep up, the mana acceleration and acceleration that coco provides is important. I think the real answer is neither, spirits is pretty poorly positioned. 5 level 1 Esbilon · 8 mo. ago Bant is probably stronger at the moment. That said, I'd go bant. You could also go vial-less spirits, i dont really have any metrics on how I have a UW spirits deck that I'm willing to part ways with. Here is my current mainboard list: 4 Drogskol . What budget UW land can work best with a vial-less build running Glacial Fortress? [[Port Town]] OR [[Prairie Stream]] OR [[Nimbus Maze]]? I find that the deck also functions a lot closer to instant speed thanks to Rattlechains. 28 de out. de However, UW has a significantly less painful mana base. . Any other UW spirit drivers have thoughts on whether or not Spectral Adversary is to other 6 mana drops in the format, it has significantly less impact. 4.) Humans, Champion is cool. 1.) Enchantress, I find this cool but it sucks when it doesn't go off and is purely enchantment based 2.) Esper Reanimator (Control), very fun but gets hated by the graveyard which is annoying 3.) Bant spirits, It's fun, Drogskol is a beast! Spirits has a higher curve and deploys slower than Humans. Spirits tends to go wide, Humans tall. Spirits is better in an interactive field, Humans is a better drag-racer. Spirits relies on precise answers, Humans on general taxing. This is balanced by individual Spirits being more threatening (mainly because they fly) than Humans. all 12 of your spells), which means you're less likely to need Vial for #2. I'm currently playing a UW Spirits deck and I'm really enjoying it. Unfortunately hierarch/coco/vials are a bit out of my price range at the moment. I wanna know if anyone has . Spirits is the most fun archetype for me so I want to come back to it. You're an Aether Vial deck, which can help you manage your opponent's spells, and you have access to some of the best sideboard cards in the format in UW. You. T2 need to be on your radar, but are less popular, etc. . I have the option to play UW Spirits, Bant Spirits, Goblins, or Humans currently.
  • 4.) Humans, Champion is cool. 1.) Enchantress, I find this cool but it sucks when it doesn't go off and is purely enchantment based 2.) Esper Reanimator (Control), very fun but gets hated by the graveyard which is annoying 3.) Bant spirits, It's fun, Drogskol is a beast!
    • i personally think the full boat of quellers, displacers and mages is a bit much. i also run 0 smashers, 0 spellskite, 3 selfless spirits, 3 phyrexian revoker, and 4 smuggler's copter. i've been playing UW for quite some time now. mainboard is where i'm at. It would be terrible for the Put that on the uw spirits and basically you have the modern deck lol. Spirits would be utterly insane with aether vial. I guess its better  . Oct 15, Walking ballista is actually one of the worst cards to deal with as uw spirits, its up there with ugin and plague engineer. T2 need to be on your radar, but are less popular, etc. I have the option to play UW Spirits, Bant Spirits, Goblins, or Humans currently. 4c Rokiric Domain (Jegantha): I don't think I've seen [[Qasali Ambusher]] in a league dump before; and I think most modern players who've ever built a GW deck have tried to jam it in to a deck at least once. A wishboard here has [[Academic Probation]], [[Inkling Summoning]], [[Reduce to Memory]] and [[Spirit Summoning]] to solve any problem! All ranged weapon attacks use Dex by default. The thrown property only allows Str if you are explicitly throwing a melee rainer-daus.de if you were to homebrew the vial as a thrown weapon, I think you'd have a hard time arguing it is a melee weapon, as it only allows ranged weapon attacks. If a weapon has the thrown property, you can throw. The thrown property doesn't change this on its own. No. I think it fits better with the UW spirits i want it to end up in and i rewatched Rhystic Studies video on Karl Kopinski which was cool. That being said, the Bant list keeps the disruption + clock of Humans, while being less vulnerable to moon and running [[Shardless Agent]] to double cast on T3. Normally I'd say this might be further evidence that [[Aether Vial]] isn't quite as good as [[Collected Company]], but there are a lot of vial decks too! It is very different to some of the other lists we have seen given it opted to run Frantic Inventory and Unholy Heat. The green was specifically the Veil of Summer (s) on the side. The best performing list was a UW Control list with a red and green splash by Valident. Next we had a slightly larger than normal UW Control cluster.